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Aust J Physiother. I couldn’t step up at all at first but now I can. If you had a background in gymnastics I would guess you are better than average. Please do them gently! [1] McKenzie Back Exercises - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf McKenzie's exercises are designed to reposition any displaced intervertebral discs. After 3 weeks of unusal pain and unanswered questions I stopped. Are you implying that all exercises are the same, with running on a treadmill or riding a road bike being the same as crossfit, gymnastics or yoga? Hi – Doing so would actually help me to dial in the delivery of my exercises in a way that’s easiest to understand. I read the 2nd edition of Low Back Disorders and it was pretty great. The repetitive loading and unloading on the adaptive motion trainer gives me what I’ve lost now that I cannot run. What helped after a few PTs was just half hour walks almost every day – and time. I’ve had my adventures and there are many things that could have caused my spondy. Compressive stress increased dramatically. Sometimes they will get to a weight level where they will start to feel minor to moderate increases in pain afterwards. When this occurs, I simply do a set of retractions and then retraction-extensions to abolish the pain and go back to sleep. I have had left leg weakness for 2 1/2 years which causes me to sometimes drag my foot – especially at the end of the day when I am tired; this began after several sessions with a personal trainer doing one legged squats with TRX bands. But here’s the rub, spine flexion stretches may increase space for the nerves but they cause further disc bulges, herniations and disc degeneration. Thanks. Numbers, wow you are the first to ever ask. And yes I told her these things bother me and I even said so even with the latest MRI results you still want me to do these press ups and she looked at me like I was crazy to even ask. physical therapists trained in McKenzie evaluation methods don’t do a very good job of consistently determining which patients fall into which category of treatment. I suppose there is a lot of ways to look at it, but I don’t think *extension stretches* are the answer for too much flexion. Simone. Not that all core motion is bad, and that you don’t want any, however if you have herniated discs, then the amount of core motion you have been getting is too much already, and the amount of core mobility you can tolerate going forward is going to be less than you could have pre-injury, because the discs are already damaged. But the inculsion of retraction just isn’t for me as i tend to not protude..more so look down when doing things. If I were you, I would never do a prone press up ever again. Also in my experience, by avoiding core motion and stretches during exercise and activities of daily living, it lets the discs better heal. I cycle, run, do dance routines and kettle bell workouts Treasure Island (FL): StatPearls Publishing; 2021 Jan. Would you like email updates of new search results? In the case of treating low back pain my method (right now) is to teach the use of good lumbar supports when sitting, good motor control during active daily activities, and to increase not just core but total body strength and endurance. I get no symptoms when I preform them, but I still have all the sciatica symptoms and back pain now. However there is this tightness that I mention. I hope that helps. I’ve been diagnosed with S-1 herniated disk (but have not had an MRI) and I’m seeing a Physical Therapist. A shear force is a cutting force, and if, as an engineer, I do not engineer against shear failure, my structure can suffer catastrophic failure. The name of your blog is Absolute Physical Therapy and I’m guessing that you believe in absolutes but I’m sorry, sometimes we will never know what is truly happening. Soon as I do I won’t hop up on a bike again for quite a while! OBJECTIVE: The aim was… First, let’s start by agreeing there isn’t good evidence for most any treatment for back pain. I figure if I’m doing my weightlifting exercises through a full range of motion, I don’t need to do any additional stretches and though I’m not trying to set any flexibility records I’m more flexible than average. We are all guilty of that. Trigger whether to attempt? I suspect end range spine extension could irritate the facet joints, with increased risk of said irritation if you already had degenerative disc disease. -, Clare HA, Adams R, Maher CG. Some patients can’t do all the exercises, some do alternatives and some do extra, but the video program is my basic. The old terminology for this is “Irreducible derangement” the new terminology is “mechanically unresponsive radiculopathy or MUR” They have 4 categories of classification: derangement, dysfunction, postural, and “other” MUR and Mechanically inconclusive , MI are in the other category. There is research that says people who get MRIs have more pain than those who don’t and they think it’s precisely because it freaks them out. All I cared about was SIZE. I often describe the spondy as a door with three hinges. I feel no pressure even when I hiperextend my back. Good exercises increase strength and endurance so that you can move more about your hips and spare your spine such that your body can then, hopefully on its own heal it’s discs and reabsorb material. God I missed that! Provides explanations for low back and neck pains and rationale for the standard treatment exercises Low Back Disorders might be overwhelming. Also this blog is a bit negative, being mostly about what doesn’t work, or at least what the above meta-analysis suggest doesn’t work very well. The page still needs a lot of edits, but I think the red flags aspect is accurate, though not yet edited for typos and clarity. The hallmark of the McKenzie method for back pain involves the identification and classification of nonspecific spinal pain into homogenous subgroups. I read what you wrote, but not the responses to all of the comments, so forgive me if you addressed some of this. It seems great. Perhaps read further into the comments as you are not the first McKenzie advocate to take offense. Right now I am able to lift up to 300 lbs on the back squat. Yeah, if I were you, and I wanted to alleviate the tingling, I would do everything I talked about AND NOTHING ELSE! he did the electrical stimulation that would make my muscles JUMP, not just that buzzing feeling… but I felt improvement pretty quick with what he was doing I did a bunch of exercises too, bridges, stretches, all the rubber bands on the ankles to walk around with them etc. I have already offered criticism of the latter in another blog, and I think avoiding activities that cause low back pain is rather prudent. The pressure from the bar is compressing the spine and the posterior part of the disk is being pressed, That might be th reason why deadlifts injured me but never squats as the forces are completely opposite from eachother. In my example program video, when I am applying EMS at the end, the patient is in mild extension (prone on elbows) which is as far as McGill recommended and as far as I ever go. When my back is feeling particularly good, I can lower the height of pillows under knees and it’s okay. Rather than repeating the extension for a number of reps to just lay there for a sustained 10-15 minutes or so to try and reverse the protrusions without the repeated impact on the facets joints of the spine. It’s implicit to my protocol. In this case work through as many stages as you can and only progress further as your pain subsides. [Precise application of Traditional Chinese Medicine in minimally-invasive techniques]. Then, I joined the Navy and did active duty for 6 years, and my first actual experience of sharp back pain was carrying around my 100lb seabag. Or it could fall under none of the above and require a pain science/ cognitive-behavioral therapy approach for chronic pain syndromes in which centralized pain persists. More than 85% of people over age 60 … Thanks!!! I think you’re so right about acupuncture. Thanks in advance. I mean she has made it clear that the entire mckenzie method is based upon press ups apparently. I wouldn’t do ANY stretching through the spine (McKenzie, Williams or otherwise) except for perhaps to rest in prone propped on fists or elbows at most (which is more static positioning rather than a stretch) and only if that relieves symptoms. I cannot do squats because I gave myself a hernia a few years back and after getting it repaired then I decided that I didn’t need another one. Probably sitting too much is behind some of this. So unless McKenzie was poor author, I think I know his system better than most. If it doesn’t work for you it could simply be that your structural problem does not allow it to work. That wasn’t the case when I first went through that book, so I probably need to retake that whole thing. My range in hyperextensions was somewhat limited, and I had pain going from end range flexion back up to standing height, so she advised flexion based stretches (knees to chest, seated floor touches, child pose…). Tarang Srivastava et al, Efficacy of McKenzie exercise over conventional physiotherapy therapy in ;ow back pain [dysfunction syndrome] 12. What do you think? In recent months, I’m starting to be more surprised if it doesn’t work. I do the same while performing dips where both exercises have a component of lumbar traction or unloading the spine. The MRI says some weird things (to me) about, “effaces anterior subarachnoid space, slightly displaces the cord posteriorly and remodels the anterior left aspect of the cord” It says basically that same thing for C5-6 and C6-7. Then let me know if you have any additional questions. It’s a fairly frequent injury among football players, wrestlers, gymnasts and other athletes that undergo extremes of extension in their sports so, per your history, there might have been a previous injury to this region of your spine already. I have sent a couple folks to him who had terrible LB problems, and were within 30 days of getting back surgery. Disclaimer, National Library of Medicine Well things like this happen. It has hundreds of pages of text to explain everything thoroughly and he already did that. “Eleven trials of mostly high quality were included. On to my spondy: I don’t know what caused it just like so many of my patients. The BMEE program consisted of 8 exercises taking 38 mins per day to complete every day!!! Wow, that’s quite a story and you have done your homework! But the bladder symptoms I have also read as common amongst people with pelvic floor disfunction and tailbone pain. Yes, there are many cases where painful flexion will require extension, but it’s NOT in Stone. i’m just asking it myself because i confronted the systematical review dated from 2006 that you’re using to the other ones speaking about the MDT and since then a lot was done and i think we are progressing further, IMO Robin Mckenzie made a lot of sense, I bought his first editions..it was probably more than 25 years ago, I seeked out for some literature on the subject because i wasn’t getting any joy from back therapists. The doctor didn’t even tell me what the MRI really means so if you know please help me understand that as well. This brings me to my questions for you. Not that squats and RDLs would necessarily be bad for you, but you would probably want to proceed with more caution on the latter. He graduated Summa Cum Laude with a B.S. I even get numbness when turning a grocery cart to the right or the left and I’m 34! That one scared me the most. Thanks for allowing me to throw my two cents into the ring! You mention other health issues, so on the same page as my “bad timing comments” I talk about “red flags” and it might be worth giving them a look too. X-rays are relatively inexpensive and don’t sound unreasonable, but MRIs for low back pain show a lot of false positives (spine abnormalities shown in otherwise normal subjects without pain). However, McKenzie always taught that it is empowering for patients to be able to control their own symptoms using the Centralization Phenomenon (CP) as a guide. MeSH Do you really think the anulus is like a cinnamon roll? I am taking careful walks for 30 minutes or so and using ice and am looking for things I can do to centralize and remove nerve root pressure and was hoping for any feedback. I’ve been suffering for weeks unable to do barely anything, even walking can be too much, sometimes very slow walks are okay, and at this point and am risk of loosing my job since I can’t go to the office due to the pain with driving and don’t have the ability to lay down when I’m in too much pain. However I have my doubts that the McKenzie extension stretches you did also resulted in your improvement for a couple of reasons. Cheers, Chad, you may find the research article below of interest where you are presently only exploring the sagittal plane and completely ignoring the lateral. Couch potatoes might find them challenging but I still much prefer teaching them to lift real weights. Can an annular tear where the disc lost hydration and is bulging actually go back into place AND Heal with press ups? It also made a specific notation that using clinicians who were “certified” or trained to a higher level did effect the outcomes (as you might expect more training = better outcomes). It still works, but I do wonder if continual use of extensional exercises could be causing some yet- to- be- experienced collateral damage. Be sure to click on the user rules before beginning. However, per McKenzie’s books if the person’s back pain is reduced with flexion, he’ll give flexion stretches as part of treatment , which I would think is just as bad for a disc as when Williams prescribed the exercise. I can keep my spine neutral with either a mixed or overhand grip when I do RDLs but with my Olympic weightlifting background I prefer overhand, and I use straps when the weights are heavy. And if extension hurts a person, I agree you certainly shouldn’t do extension, but are end range flexion stretches really going to help them? The problem I think is that McKenzie goes too far the other way. to write this ridiculous comment) in an Aeron chair with the lumbar attachment will still cause it to ache. As for the diagnosis of “piriformis syndrome” a lot of people have pain in their posterior hip and numbness going down the leg and given your history and MRI report, I would suspect nerves are compressed in your lumbar spine rather than by your piriformis muscle. Also I have my patients lock their spines in neutral to slight extension, and a bunch of kipping if the motion came at the level of the spine might be irritating. The unique method to assess and treat the spine is widely recommended as the first choice for common back and neck problems worldwide. Any suggestions would be appreciated as I am a bit overweight & always on the go so before any surgery I would love to lose the weight I gained around my last surgery 7 yrs ago but have been unable to keep it off although I am constantly working & moving – Low back pain has many causes. How did you get you spondylolysis and spondylolisthesis? Long thread going on here. After studying your words, I’d like to make the following statement. Not to mention that I don’t even advocate TENS for back pain. Move slowly and focus on proper form by engaging your core muscles before starting any movement. As for the massage, I expect that might make you feel better, it should help decrease muscle spasms, but I don’t think it’s doing anything in the long term to affect you injury. At the same time he was researching exercises to see what worked the muscle best while putting the least stress on the damaged structures of the spine, and that’s where the big three came from. The study comparing McKenzie to passive modalities and advise actually misses the point of McKenzie. I educate people about their condition and how to stop making it worse. Also, I made an example, Further, given that spine pain has long been a favorite topic of mine, much of the content within these older blogs will be directly relevant to Spinal Flow® even if at times I criticized yoga. It was pain I’d rate a 2 out of 10, but it persisted as a 1 or 2 for days. Lumbar Retrolisthesis: Introduction, types, physiotherapy treatment. Patients don’t care about power. I’d expect standing rows and presses to be well tolerated. I think you would be a lot better off working to improve your postures, increasing core and extremity strength all while maintaining a neutral spine (thus improving hip and spine motor control). I generally tell my patients to avoid all pinching or sharp pains. In: StatPearls [Internet]. Well the Press up still gives me small discomfort. These researchers recruited thirty adults in the age range of 20-30 years with mechanical low back pain. Start by lying face up with your knees bent and feet flat on the floor. PTA’s are not credentialed in McKenzie; PT’s are. This was when it was suggested I see a doctor. In theory the roll around the waist might help you keep things more neutral at night but only if your waist is real narrow, however I have never felt it necessary nor advised anybody to do that. I agree looking down is a problem for the neck for most neck pain sufferers. They don’t want a label they just want their pain turned off. But when you have an MRI you are usually lying flat with your spine neutral so the MRI would miss seeing the damage. The hip hinge is something you can practice getting up and down from sitting positions or bending over a sink and definitely when working out at your gym. Most people when they sit, sit with their spine in some degree of flexion. Based on the results of that we know whether we got it right or not. I resisted this all the way and he would try to convince me that it will not hurt the spondy – which disagreed with everything i had read and also my own body which generally does not like a lot of extension and if anything prefers flexion. ” —- do you even know what you are talking about? McGill said he would stop doing it if it increased pain at all. I have a bulge at l5-s1 and have been out of work for a year now due to not being able to walk, sit, or stand for long periods of time. That was 8 years ago. However, I thought the thicker lumbar support adjustment was too much and the lesser support setting was not enough. Sitting too much, likely has something to do with it. Backward bending or extension would then be at 6 O’ Clock. All rights reserved. So if it’s just bulging some mild McKenzie extension stretches might help reduce it. Just strange for me to not be able to stretch my way out of it but exercises seem painful so not sure how to stregthen. I’m trying to take this thing from gargantuan down to just huge so maybe a list format. tough i haven’t enough time yet to go trough all of them. I would treat that with hip and leg strengthening (which I would already be doing for low back pain) with an emphasis on hip abduction/adduction strength. Spinal Flow is like the opposite of regular yoga where you learn how NOT to bend your spine. Rather I would be working on keeping my spine neutral (all day long) while improving overall fitness. If it isn’t harming your patients and some of them get better, god bless ya and keep on truckin’. Thank you for your suggestions. Treasure Island (FL): StatPearls Publishing; 2021 Jan–. McKenzie exercises are designed to improve spinal mobility and promote good posture, which can provide relief from back pain. I do find flexion sometimes helpful. All semantics are trivial when you consider the above meta-analysis for which this blog is dedicated, finding that McKenzie method to be no more effective than giving people a pamphlet and advice to stay active. Walking keeps the spine very neutral, avoiding both extremes of flexion and extension. At other times, I can feel a pinch in my back/butt area (I’m guessing its the disc at the L5-S1 area), and I will show symptoms of the sciatica or calf pain. Copyright © 2021, StatPearls Publishing LLC. As someone who suffered with LBP for almost 3yrs straight due to a weightlifting injury I was at wits end until I found McKenzie’s method. I had heard things about this particular Orthopedic surgeon and I wanted to be sure that I was correct in what I had heard about him; it appears that he first developed Williams flexion protocol just prior to WWII. Tight hamstrings can pull on the lower back, increasing pain or discomfort. And you later worked into squats and deadlifts, which if you perform them keeping the spine neutral you are using two of my favorite spine stabilization exercises. And to all the people suffering from this. FWIW, I have most of my back pain patients working towards some kinds of squats and deadlifts, done to improve strength, lessen pain, and teach good spine mechanics/technique, which in turn helps to lessen pain. Yesterday I thought I saw a some improvement but when it got bed time oh my the pain came like you wouldn’t believe. On a 0-10 scale could you say how much you hurt on average, at your best, and at your worst? It is extremely painful standing up after extensions. Four weeks later I went downhill skiing. Cheers! It just sucks when you have back pain and all the professionals around you are so clueless as to literally make you worse with their treatment. After growing tired of all the BS I had endured with three three different PTs I subjected myself to, I scored on the fourth PT. I would think increased feelings of stiffness would be a sign you overdid something. By the time I saw him I had developed drop foot in my right leg. Low neck and back pain is a horrible feeling. Also known as Mechanical Diagnosis and Therapy (MDT), the McKenzie Exercises for sciatica pain in buttocks and hip minimize the use of manual procedures with only a trained therapist to support the patient. What is Sciatica? EMS is just that much better, and if set up right (which is part of the trick) the benefits are immediately obvious. Pain free even in hyperextension. That’s funny what you said about acupuncture and beer. On the bed lying on back I can manage it with pillow under knees. It wasn’t until wk 4 that I decided to stop completely as I think it was just masking all pain/inflammation that the McKenzie stretches were causing. I talked with the attending PTA and he said my pain was caused by sitting when I got home. If your PT was using McKenzie among a number of techniques then it becomes hard to say what which factors led to your recovery. Also I don’t think compliance is necessarily responsible for success or failure with McKenzie method as you state for at least two reasons. I also stretch a lot still and do my core workouts. If you have read the McKenzie Text books then you understand these principals and the paradigm from which the McKenzie Method operates. The goal is on tissue remodeling which can be a prolonged process. I took the methodology that I learned on the lumbar spine and used it on my thoracic spine and it worked. I have seen it for myself as I have had chronic hip issues ( pretty severe if I might add) and it is working well for me. Usually it’s both, so the trick is to improve your sitting postures with properly placed pillows or lumbar supports, and improve the way you move during activity (motor control) generally to use more hip action rather than spine action. Try doing each stretch, 5 repetitions and hold for 5 seconds before moving on to the next stretch. Mostly a nagging ache for a long time, then in the last 2-3 years my entire pelvis, hips and sometimes groin all really bother me. In my office, I have Netter and a lot of other pictures. Stacy Lyon the head administrator for MIUSA is a good friend of mine and I just love her. What way does it wind up, clockwise or counterclockwise? Tests just aggravate you, the solution is probably already known. It starts in a way that really easy and does not require the exact same lifting equipment I use (or any lifting equipment for that matter). I think that my BJJ days might be over but I don’t want to leave weight training. I think I might re-start my weights very slowly when training the lower body. As for manual therapy, I’m very skeptical of it whether it is being done by acute low back pain, chronic low back pain, back pain in general, and I’m especially skeptical of it when I hear other physical therapists try and explain how they think it works. As for the paper you recommend, I read it last night with interest and it was a great paper, for which I don’t disagree with their findings, but I would take issue with a couple of their conclusions. I will implement the things you told me. The method was developed by Dr. Robin McKenzie in the 1950’s and is used by many doctors and physical therapists in the treatment of lower back pain 1. He instructed me to focus on living differently and utilize his recommended exercise regimen. And I’m a software engineer by profession, more sitting with poor posture. You know how you said you were continuing prone press up as a test of spine recovery? Perhaps just in part. McKenzie doesn’t recommend any specific “exercise”. You don’t want to fail in shear. I think running is great exercise overall, and I think you are right about it’s effects on the brain. One is that spine flexion in sitting is likely your contributor, so McKenzie extension stretches to try and put it back aren’t really correcting the problem, just trying to compensate for it after the fact. hey one last thing. (8) I recovered pretty quickly from the acute incident and cautiously returned to lifting with some changes. Unfortunately, there are a lot of limitations as to precise instructions I can give over the internet without having done a thorough evaluation and observing how you respond to each intervention. If the other leg is on the ground it helps anchor the pelvis, helping keep the spine neutral. And i think it’s pretty interessant to confront ourself to the other side of the mirror, So the diagnosis at this point appears to be, as before, bulging discs putting pressure on the nerves. If my first PT had known about this and utilized the 5 minute eval I would have been ‘fixed’ years before. Honestly, I never train abdominals anymore, EMS is just that much better. The best stretch for the spine in my opinion is none. I just tried to keep it short. It’s a very good review, it’s not anti-McKenzie by any means and I think it will bring you up to speed on exercises, disc motions, pressure, consequences, etc. His “method” really isn’t some static “his way” thing. Also a muscle spasm which was straightning my lumbar region. I have a lot of strength in my core and that makes things better. The statistical analysis criticism is beyond my knowledge base, but the rest of the critic’s comments ring true to me. This makes sense but I do not have access to a sling or chin up bar. Doing no more than 8 reps down to 2 reps with heavy weight, well heavy for me. I told these folks “You can certainly do surgery, but go see this guy first, and do the work he’ll have you do. I would absolutely avoid the flexion as you change directions in the pool. I say “Great”. I agree that if flexion hurts a person, you shouldn’t have them do flexion, but is aggressive end range extension really going to help them? The pain has subsided but there is always this feeling that something is not right. Is that part of the injury? Thanks for that testosterone link – interesting. Hi Mahmoud, I feel your pain, almost, lol. I have been diagnosed with a severe left foraminal narrowing at L5/S1…due to osteophyte complex with compression of Yeah. ... McKenzie exercises to increase hip extension? I think extremes of extension are likely to be aggravating to spine conditions much like flexion. You will find that the patients that have increased sciatica during ambulation will do well with rotation in flexion (reclining spinal twist in Yoga) while laying on their right side when they have right sciatica and rotation in flexion while laying on their left side when they have left sciatica. His lumbar supports don’t support a neutral spine but push you well into extension, for prolonged periods. The pressure on that disc must have been 400 PSI (which is a low rough estimate based on the size of my vertebrae there being 3 inches between top and bottom. I don’t think extension stretches are the fix. What is this I read about the knees should always be together all night while sleeping. You asked about what I do for my back and I’m assuming the spine but I’ll wait and I’ll tell you in a minute about latissimus dorsi and gluteus maximus and the crisscrossing stabilization that they provide for my spondy. 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